Jenny 00:30 I’m so in love with you, just heard that song. And I was trying to think of a fun way maybe a more like chill way to open up this episode. Look that was so chill. Okay fine laugh all you want, but all I gotta say is I’m Jenny.
Jai 00:51 And I’m Jai. Welcome to the show.
Jenny 00:54 Yeah, welcome to The Hollastic Life Podcast.
Jai 00:55 I totally forgot our headphones. So our engineers will be put to the test.
Jenny 01:04 Today it’s gonna be up. Either way, it’s gonna be so much fun because today we are talking about something raw. And then cool. It wasn’t a raw, raw mindset.
Jai 01:15 We really got to get a camera in here.
Jenny 01:18 Totally. It’s gonna be so much fun. Okay, so raw mind. I don’t know, I’m getting excited I get excited. Every time we put these, what is this called a microphone in front of us. I get so excited. I always like super just chill and like, whatever. And then you put the microphone in front of me like I’m in my flow profile says that I’m a crowd pleaser. I love it. I’m like, whoo. Yeah, but there’s no crowd here. But I think imagining a crowd.
Jai 01:42 Alright, Becca, what’s up, babe?
Jenny 01:45 You asked what I was doing. And I explained, okay, this is wrong mindset. We’re going raw today. But we’re gonna really talk about a couple of things. Because you’ve if you’ve been following us on this journey, you’ve heard us talk about raw mindset we’ve brought it up before is one of our four quadrants, you know, the self awareness, the raw mindset, the health and wellness and the fun and adventure facts. But we don’t go a little bit different direction and really expand on a couple of things. So first, let’s at least tell him Jai, what a raw mindset like what does it stand for? So at least you kind of have an idea, and then we’re gonna break it down a couple different ways.
Jai 02:19 Raw mindset is basically what you’re ready, able and willing to do. Because everybody talks about mindset, you know, you got to have mindset, mindset, mindset mindset, and it’s become kind of where, you know, you hear someone talk about mindset, you kind of some people get instantly turned off, because it’s one of those words, it’s like, so overused in sometimes, I feel misused, to a point. So but it’s crazy, because it’s one of those things, and people come at it from the angle where, you know, your your mindset is the issue, your mindset is a problem. But what if you twist that, you know, I’m saying is, you realize that your mindset is, and has always been the solution to all your problems?
Jenny 03:11 You know, it’s, it’s a little challenging for me to really wrap my head around the fact that mindset has become a buzzword, because for me, I like, you know, I get so excited, I get so excited about mindset work, and I get excited about changing my mindset and learning about mindset. And I really wonder is that I mean, this was even pre being a coach. Like, I’ve always been like into that and aware of it. And it’s kind of like, challenging for me to think that this is a buzzword that people turn off turn their minds off to like, why do you think that is,
Jai 03:42 my dear are cut from a different cloth.
Jenny 03:44 I don’t understand that. Because it like, I feel like what I do, there’s got to be other people like this,
Jai 03:50 I feel it’s a buzzword or become a buzzword or one of those things because it’s in your face all the time. And sometimes when something is in your face, all the time, it it people become numb to it, especially especially in the vehicle and the results that are promised when attached to this particular thing. Well, so it’s not that it’s it’s a buzzword, but I feel that so many people have have become mindset coaches or mindset transformational experts and gurus. And they don’t really bring the results they promise.
Jenny 04:32 Well, I guess what you’re saying to it kind of reminds me of like the fitness industry that we talk about a lot. You know, where it’s like, everybody knows what to do to lose weight, but like a lot of people don’t do it just like in business or life or anything else. We know that. Well, I would say a lot of people know that what’s holding them back is between their ears.
Jai 04:53 Yep. And underneath their ribcage.
Jenny 04:53 But a lot of times we want to ignore it.
Jai 04:57 Because what and underneath their ribcage.
Jenny 04:59 Oh yeah. The heart Yeah, I mean, I feel like a lot of people ignore it because they just want to stay in the mind and not in the heart, like tying in with what what you said, I want to say in the mind, which is interesting, because the mind is what needs the work. And so with the next strategy, and they want the next thing
Jai 05:14 With you saying this, it’s kind of like, I feel like mindset work is truly work. And as with anything else, people kind of want to look for that quick fix, you know, I’m saying, like, just tell me what to do, or like, lay it out for me. And it’s not one of those things, you can really say, hey, do this, do this, do this. And you know, everything will be fixed by mindset stuff. That’s deep down diving.
Jenny 05:44 In some cases, yeah, sometimes it’s just like surface stuff that you need to kind of work on or replace or be exposed to. But it can be deeper work, too.
Jai 05:51 But even with the surface II stuff, I feel that if you’ve been exposed to the deep work, it becomes surfacey. Because you’re like, Okay, I’m upset. But why am I upset? So you’re able to get to that quicker, if that makes sense. So like, basically what I’m saying it’s surfacey, to the people who’ve done the deep diving mindset work, and they, they can pick up on the triggers, or the things that trigger them quicker than someone who hasn’t done that work.
Jenny 06:21 Or just be aware of them, right? I mean, I think when you talk about we’re talking about kind of, like different types of mindset. And one of the things we we took some notes before we came on here, but I’m going a little bit away from the notes just to touch because we’re talking about different types of mindset. I was just thinking when I thought about surfacy Yeah, that wasn’t the right word. But I feel like you know, the different types of like, mindset growth or whatever, would be like, you know, one type one thing is just being exposed to new things, right. It’s more of like an exposure to new ideas, new thoughts, new people, new cultures, stuff like that, right? So something like that is not necessarily the deep mindset work, but just becoming aware of other things through seminars, books, audios, podcasts like this, because a lot of times you finish I mean, how many podcasts? Have you listened to her books? Have you read? We were like, wow, I never thought about it like that? Well, that’s a new perspective. And a lot of people, you know, come out with that, like, wow, you know, I really needed that I actually got a video I posted on social media on Facebook that I shared from, like, six years ago. And it what was it, it was on kind of the reason you’re in your own way type of a concept, I forget the name of it, but someone commented on it, and was like, wow, I really needed this. So sometimes we just need that little bit of like a new perspective, or a kick or an or a new fresh way of looking at things I agree to help us.
Jai 07:47 But to even even with that, though, I feel that you have to be like open to that you’re either open to that, or you’re in a situation where like something like that just pops up and you’re like, holy crap, oh, my God, this is this is what I needed today. Like, there’s been a series of events that has you in a headspace of Oh, my gosh, and this thing pops up, right? When it needs to be like, wow, yeah, that this is, I needed this right now.
Jenny 08:16 And I totally agree with that. And I would also venture to say that, you know, if you’re listening to this podcast, you are one of those people who’s more open to the exactly what we’re talking about. Because as you know, I’m sure you can think of family members and people who are very close, they’re not interested in any new ideas, any new way of thinking, any outside influence that takes them away from like, what they’ve known their whole life. Like, we all know, people like that. But I would venture to say, if you’re listening this podcast, that’s not you. Now, the thing is, and I feel like like, kind of like the different types of mindset work, I guess, for lack of better terms, is what we just talked about, we’re like getting exposed to different things. But then, like, what we already touched on is that deeper work, right, where you’re we are exploring your an earthing, you know, older beliefs and older things and habits that don’t serve you anymore, and upgrading and rewiring to new beliefs and new habits and new things that will serve you. So that’s, I think, what you were talking about before, like the perceived work or the work that people like, I don’t want to do that shit, right? Or they’re not ready, or they’re not willing to do that. Right. Right. They’re able, everybody’s able to, but like, they’re not ready or willing. So that’s why I feel like there’s kind of different types. And I think that’s maybe why I call it called, like, the surface stuff versus the deep stuff. And maybe the top of the tip of the iceberg stuff is being exposed, you know, having new conversations, expanding your horizons, you know, like that open mind type of idea versus when you’re actually like digging in and kind of like looking at your identity, your values, you know, you’re really asking those deeper questions, or you’re working with a coach who’s helping you like dig in and find out like, Who are you really, and what do you really want and, you know, how can you get to the next level. So, the thing that we were like that we have on our list to like, chat about a little bit We were talking about these different, you know, I guess just like, I guess, I don’t know if we should still call them types of mindsets, because we already touched on this, but we were talking about like corporate entrepreneurial and personal life, maybe like veins,
Jai 10:14 I still think they would be types of mindset.
Jenny 10:16 Okay. Okay. So I mean, like, you know, we will be talking about, like, go ahead and go into that a little bit like, you know, with the direction we were talking about before, as it relates to corporate entrepreneurial and personal life.
Jai 10:27 I mean, we could be, we could even take a deeper and talk about, like, the certain mindset you have growing up with, with within your particular family, you know, if you grew up in a very religious family, you have a certain mindset towards religion, you know, now is the question is, is, is that your particular mindset? Or is that something that you’ve learned?
Jenny 10:50 I mean, we’re getting, we’re getting a little bit into the root, which is the next thing we’re going to talk about
Jai 10:54 Exactly. I’m just saying, so like, with the, the corporate and the personal thing, like, how many times have you seen the America times guy dream, you know, I’m saying, you go to school, you get a good job. And then corporate America, climbing the corporate ladder, and you’re expected to do these things, you know, I’m saying that you get towed, or you get trained that to be a top performer here, you got to bust your ass and you got to be always available, you, you have to work 80 hours, you have to be on the beck and call. So you you start to, to believe this particular mindset that this is what you have to do to be successful in this space of your life. Now, is that true or not true? So like, Are you willing to work the 80 hours, and they negate or neglect your family? So that’s what what, you know, what are you ready for? Are you ready to do that? Like you said, we’re all able, but like, what are you willing to do? And I think that’s where the personal thing comes into. Because it’s like, okay, I want to be successful. I’m striving for this. But like, personally to, like, it’s, I feel it’s, it’s because it’s definitely not black and white. You know, it’s, it’s, it’s gray. For me, it’s gray for me,
Jenny 12:21 You know, as you were talking about that, I mean, you’re like, Oh, you know, are you willing to work 80 hour weeks, I mean, here’s the thing that I feel like from an A type, you know, perspective mindset, because that’s, you know, I’m an A type if you if this first time listening, that’s kind of we talked about this a lot on our episodes, is that from a corporate perspective, and especially being like an overachiever, and you know, wanting to do really well, I can’t say it was necessarily like, um, it’s kind of it’s interesting, because it’s like a cat catch 22, I believe, let me know if I use the right term for this. But it’s like, Are you willing to work? 80 hours, if you ask me point blank, my answer is gonna be hell no. But when I’m in that environment, and I feel like, that’s what it’s gonna take, or I feel like, that’s what I need, I need to do or I feel like I want to do to achieve my goals, or that’s how I feel like to get a promotion. Or once I’m like, cuz, you know, I’m very passionate. So I easily worked a lot of hours and didn’t think anything of it, because I was passionate about what I did. But if you ask me point blank, do I want to work at the answers? Always? Hell no. And sometimes we don’t catch it. Until it’s like too much until we recognize some of those other signs of burnout or the other signs were we’re tired or sick or whatever, you know, our spouse, or our friends or family is yelling at us, because we’re not around. But I mean, that’s just I just think back, I worked a lot of hours. I wasn’t, I would say, a lot of times I was willing to work them. I worked them happily, because I felt like that’s what was required and needed for me to hit my goals or make the sales or follow up my clients or do a good job.
Jai 14:00 Which goes back to the original thing in the conversation, like, but but where did that that mindset come from?
Jenny 14:09 Right? Right. No, I totally get that. But until you really, I mean, all of this, like, mindset work, like we talked about, I mean, it takes that level of awareness to be willing to like, ask those questions.
Jai 14:21 What, what you what you said to and what you’re exposed to, like, who are you exposed to? What are you reading? What are you listening to? What are you following? And if you’re surrounded by people with that same type of mindset, of course, you’re not going to be exposed any anything else? Because you guys are thinking the same. But until like somebody comes in, who’s like, Yo, I work 40 hours. I still get I still hit my numbers. I do everything that you guys do. I just don’t bust my ass doing it and I’m still successful. until something like that happens. They say Holy shit, okay, this person is like, we, we would call it Cadillac in our cool lady. So it’s basically you’re just chillin, but you’re still, you’re under the radar, you’re still getting your job done, you know? And you’re like, Okay, so how the hell can this person be super successful? They’re still killing their numbers, but they’re doing like half the work that we’re doing, like, what’s really going on?
Jenny 15:19 He it’s just I’m listening everything you’re saying, I’m going back to you know where my mindset was, because as much as I love mindset work, like I said, I also like in that vein, of, you know, working hard and hustling and achieving, you know, when I would go to like peak performance seminars, and I would only like it if it was a firehose, and it was coming at me 10,000 miles an hour, and multiple layers, I, the other ones that were slower, I was bored with them. I needed like that, or I thought I did, right. And it’s interesting as you talking, as you’re talking about this, because I remember being exposed to the four hour workweek, the book and the concept by Tim Ferriss, and I read it, and I’m like, well, that’s great. I think that’s really cool. I’d love to do that. But like that, like believing it wasn’t possible, there’s no way there’s, there’s no way that that’s possible. You know, maybe having that little bit of an inkling and maybe that’s where it starts, there’s like a seed that’s planted, like we were talking about before, where you go to the seminar, you learn a new idea, and it may be kind of plants that seed, but but with that deep rooted belief system, from family culture, etc,
Jai 16:21 And, and, to like, my best friend, we were talking about this, he would tell me for years, like years, cause I had an entrepreneurial mind as a teenager. And he would always tell me, he was like, Yo, I respect you. But like, I’m a worker bee. That’s, that’s, that’s how I’m wired. I’m a worker bee, I could never do like what you’re doing. And he’s just now taking on the the moniker of a burnout coach, which is awesome. Him and his wife are working together. So I’m excited to see that journey. But we were talking about this, and he’s put me on a book that I definitely need to read. But it’s called Dying for a Paycheck. But back to him, we were talking about this, and he’s like, I’m one of those people. And I think this is a lot of A type of individuals. I’m one of those people where you have to convince me that this is possible. Yes, yes, I even if I believe it, I believe in or even if you know, someone’s planted that seed, you still have to convince me that I can do this. So but even even with that, within itself, within the in the in the types in the veins, as you say, That’s still a certain type of mindset within itself.
Jenny 17:37 Well, it’s, it’s, it’s just, it’s so interesting, and why, why people would maybe be hesitant to do this work, or maybe not even wanting to do this work. Because if that’s what you grew up around, that’s your culture, you’ve achieved success, you look up to other people who have achieved a lot of success doing some of these things. I mean, I remember if I go back into that mindset, you know, someone who was not an action taker, from the view that I had, right? Like,
Jai 18:04 I wouldn’t actually take her should be.
Jenny 18:06 What Ithought, right? Like, if someone wasn’t doing, you know, a million things a day when like taking action and moving and going, I just thought that they were lazy, right. And it’s interesting, because one of our clients was sharing, even with her journey, you know, where some of the personal expectations you put on yourself, you know, really led her to a lot of burnout, and even physical burnout, and a lot of things that she believes were manifested from that extra pressure, she put on herself at the job, and she just pushed too hard.
Jai 18:33 That’s powerful.
Jenny 18:34 And, you know, when you take all these things, and you look at the root cause, and you look at, you know, all of this, I mean, it does definitely take like, you may have these beliefs, about life, about corporate world about entrepreneurial world, and you hear somebody else come in and be like, yo, you can have it this way. But the thing is, is like a lot of those beliefs may be deeply ingrained, just like you’re talking about with religion, a lot of that might be really deeply ingrained. And so I mean, to switch from a Catholic to a Baptist or a Catholic to a Protestant or whatever, right? That could be a big deal for somebody, because you brought up religion before, right? And it’s like, you ain’t changed in me, this is who I am, this is what I do. But I think once we start realizing, and we start questioning things, and this is where a lot of the self awareness work comes in. We started questioning and becoming aware like, like you said, you know, you start questioning, like, Where did this come from? Says who? Do I really have to work this much? Is this really absolutely necessary? And you start really like unwinding and just like, checking in, you’re kind of like, aligning defining like what it is that you want, right? And really not what outside of you want it’s really going more intrinsic. Instead of extrinsic with your goals and stuff. I mean, that could be a whole nother episode going into that. But the you know, that whole piece when you start like, you know, digging in and unwinding and you may come out and be like, you know what I like what I’m doing This is great. But the thing is a lot of people start changing when shit hits the fan. And what I mean by that they start getting sick, have a heart attack, you know, have a divorce
Jai 20:09 When you go to the doctor, and they tell you, if you don’t, if you don’t change your life, you’re probably gonna die in six months, right?
Jenny 20:13 And it’s unfortunate that that’s the case. But sometimes that’s what it takes for someone to really like CTFO and back off for some things. That’s why you know, it’s, it’s your journey, it’s always your choice. But we’re going to continue to bring different things to be able to bring awareness to different aspects of your life from a holistic standpoint, so that you can start to, you know, really question and go, Hmm, is that what I really want? Do I want to go down that? Do I want to adopt this type of a mindset? Do I want to adopt the holistic lifestyle? Do I want to adopt some of these things that they’re talking about, or even a combination of what we talked about, and other people talk about? What we share is not like the be all end, all right, but it could be the thing, and the lifestyle and the programs and the resources or whatever it is you plug into with us, it could be that thing that helps you get to the next level. And then it’ll be time for another thing. And then another thing, like we graduate from coaches and programs all the time, we have coaches in our life anywhere from, you know, a few sessions, to many years, and you know, you’re gonna be able to be alongside of them. And then sometimes it just isn’t, you’ve grown, you’ve outgrown them, not because you’re bad, or they’re bad. It has nothing to do with that. Just sometimes it’s time for a new fresh perspective. Agreed. And really, if we really get into what holds a lot of people back in this journey, what do you think it is that holds, holds people back from really making this change?
Jai 21:37 The willingness aspect, like, what are you willing to do? Because a lot of times was even with that, going back, doubling back, circling back, whatever you want to back into the fitness thing, you know, you have to do this to get in shape to be fit to be healthy. I mean, like, people see that and be like, No, fuck that. I’m not willing to do that. It’s not that I can’t, because you can do anything you want to do. It’s like, will you do it? Or won’t you do it? So you know, it’s like, No, I’m not willing to do that. And it’s like, but if someone tells you, oh, you have to do cardio 15 minutes before we start our workout? Who said that? Like who wrote that rule?
Jenny 22:23 Right? Well, it’s a combination of finding what will work for you and your lifestyle, what you want, but also finding those mentors and coaches who have done and accomplished and live the lifestyle that you strive to, you know, you want to live and that’s something that you want to do. And then also, you know, possibly even creating your own path. You know, sometimes when we hear these different things, and we’re not willing to get that six pack abs by doing those things, or being the fitness competition, or whatever it is, you know, I’ve only seen that style. So also being willing to like, look for other people. Aren’t mainstream
Jai 23:01 Are there models of possibility?
Jenny 23:03 Yes, yes. I mean, sometimes, you know, here’s the thing that we hit, sometimes in business, we’re looking and we’re doing market research, and we’re looking at other people who do similar things. And of course, we feel like we do something that’s super unique, and nobody does what we do. But when you pull out one of these words, like fitness, or mindset, or wellness, or you pull out some of these, like more like general or generalized words, and you look to see who’s doing those types of things, and who’s successful at what they’re doing, a lot of times what we come across is like the same old crap, especially with fitness, we were just doing some market research on fitness, you see the same old thing, you see, you know, some trainer, and you know what, they’re probably really good at what they do, of course, we could question that. But that’s, you know, a side topic, they’re probably really good at what they do. You know, they’re a fitness coach. And then, you know, you happen to their program for 299 a day, $2, a night, whatever, you know, you get this app, you get on demand workouts every day, seven times a day, like there’s so many things like that. And then you get this meal plan, and then you get you know, and so when you’re looking and you’re like looking to build your business, maybe you’re at the beginning, or maybe you’re looking to, you know, do some market research, sometimes we can fall in the trap of being like God, you know, they look successful. So we must have to do it that way to be successful, right? And the thing is, is a lot of times we find ourselves being like, nah, remember and come back to our core, come back to who we are and say, Yeah, like we do. And that’s not what we want to do. That’s not how we want to serve, we know and we have a more powerful way that’s driving results with our clients, helping them get the results that they want in their life on their terms. We have so many people come to us initially because they want to lose weight, but they walk away with so much more. It’s like, Oh, yeah, I want to lose weight and I’m sick of doing the same way they come in and then it’s like that first little bit. It’s like, wait, y’all do this different. I don’t know, man. I’m looking for that meal plan. We’re like, Okay, keep looking. Because that’s not what you need.
Jai 24:53 Yeah, yeah, we don’t do that shit.
Jenny 24:54 Right? We have a totally different approach.
Jai 24:57 And not afraid to walk away from people like that, yeah, you know what I’m saying, I think that’s the thing too, because people feel to be successful, they have to do it a certain way. And they’re not true to themselves. And they’re like, well, if I don’t do this, I won’t be successful. Instead of having the courage to say, no, this is how I do things. Yes, it’s different, but it works. And if this isn’t how you want to work with me, there’s a million other people that does it the way you want to. So go find one of them.
Jenny 25:31 One, sometimes too, we may go down a path thinking that that’s the way we want to go, it sounds good, it feels good. But we start going down that path. And we’re like, this is not what I what I had in mind. Or sometimes you start working with someone and as you grow and learn, maybe you haven’t learned yet to ask certain questions to be able to ask that mentor coach, like, does that actually align with you? You know, you hire someone, because they promise that you’re gonna make seven figures in seven hours, and you’re like, whoo, and then you start getting into the program, and you’re like, Oh, fuck, like, I trained to do this. But you didn’t think to ask certain questions. And that’s why it’s always good to really like, check in with yourself, your higher self, your soul, who you are, like, check in with you, whatever word resonates with you check in with you. And sometimes, we haven’t even peeled away who we are compared to who we feel like we need to be. So think about the things in your life that you are wanting to change right now. Not you, Jai you are listener. He’s like looking, he’s like thinking, that’s okay, you can think of this is good. So think about the things in your life that you’re wanting to change, or that you’ve been working on changing or that you really want to, you know, you’re working on becoming, you know, that your dreams, your goals, and think about those things and think about, you know, which ones you have been maybe tripped up on, right, right, that you’ve you’ve hit stumbling blocks, or you haven’t really quite got the results that you really had hoped for. And really think, think, think and apply this idea of the wrong mindset. Really ask yourself, are you ready to make that change?
Jai 27:04 And? Initially, you’re probably going to be like, yes!
Jenny 27:07 Hey, I’m ready. I’ve been waiting for years.
Jai 27:09 God, yes.
Jenny 27:10 You know, and then the ABLE Are you able to do you have the resources and the things and the time and whatever it is you need to do to make that change? And then really, really, really ask yourself, are you willing…
Jai 27:20 This is that’s the real one right there.
Jenny 27:22 But even go deeper with that and really think like, Okay, what am I willing to do? And does this align with, like, who I want to be in life? You know, are these people that I’m following aligned with that? And that could be where the disconnect is, right? Let’s let’s just keep an eye on weight loss, because it’s easy. Maybe you’ve been following someone who’s like a keto lifestyle or an intermittent fasting lifestyle, or a hardcore workout lifestyle with a hardcore, you know, nutrition plan, or maybe a whole 30? I don’t know, pick one of them. It’s always good to experiment. So I’m not saying these are good or bad. I’m just saying maybe you’ve been following someone who’s like great results worked with great people. But yet, you haven’t really like gotten that change yet, right? I mean, it could be that you’re just not willing to do all the things in the keto lifestyle, or, or insert, whatever it is, like you keep trying and keep stumbling. Like maybe that’s what where the disconnect is. And whatever it is, that’s what you have to explore. And that’s where you know, like, that’s where you go deeper. And that’s really where you can have the powerful change. So reach out to us. Let us know, we would love to hear how this journey is for you. If we can help you get to willing, whatever it is that you’re working on. If we can help you get there. We definitely would love to be a part of that even if it’s not working with us on one of the things that we’re doing. But if you’re kind of like working on a goal and you’re like, alright, I think I’m ready. I think I’m able but I don’t know if I’m willing, if we know somebody will introduce you or whatever it is we want to help you get there. So reach out to us on Instagram shoot us a message at the number two underscore the letter J holla. h o ll a and what else Jai anything else?
Jai 29:00 That’s good.
Jenny 29:01 Alright guys, Until the next episode..
Jai 29:03 Holla
Jenny 29:03 Holla.